“Price: $7.98 (quart), $15.96 (gallon)- almost the cheapest option for a quart; cheapest gallon by over $2.00! I chose the multi-purpose over the cheaper high coverage formula (~$15) thinking that it was the better way to go. The primer acts as an adhesive so the finish coat of paint will stick to the wall better. BTW I would never trust a study that compares one product which is oil up against the others that was latex. I have a pink room and a sharp blue. I never use latex primers. How can you differentiate between brand loyalty and user error? For paint, I will always use Benjamin Moore–best coverage ever. My ultimate favorite is Behr Flat Enamel. Same goes for oil-based stains, you need to use water-based sealer. I want to paint over cheap laminate paneling by doing some faux painting with Valspar interior acrylic granite paint. I’m going back to Kilz2. KJ-You’ll definitely need to prime first… and you’ll probably want to lightly sand the surface since ikea furniture will already be varnished. For the top-coat, I like the Valspar top-of-the-line paints that Lowe’s sells. Is the a good primer I could put down and then put a solid stain on top? I am doing it myself and have professional sprayer. It is very nice and smooth, even coverage, but you are right – several coats is not worth the time. As far as I’m concerned you cannot compare the Kilz with the other two unless you used a water base as the oil bases are better hiding primers/sealers. the Reserve peeled…covered good, but peeled after 2 weeks on wall. Hi, folks. If the primer comes off so will the top coat with it. You may still see color pull through, but that’s because it is a sealer, not a pigmented paint. Never again–what a PITA the other brand was! Interior Drywall P.V.A. Sprayed with a Graco Magnum sprayer and what a freaking MESS!!! Can the Kilz 2 be tinted towards the finish top coat? Any other ideas? PVA primer is what is normally used. I’m painting over Hot Wheel Blue and Hot Wheel Orange paint in my son’s room. I want a good water resistant finish using latex paint, if possible. Am I alone on this – should I expect to put more than one coat for relatively clean walls (no bright red/blue/etc)?? Have used Zinser 123 in the past with great results. The panels are put up and then a matching wallpapered strip runs from ceiling to floor to cover the seams. Scuffed up the surface, put down two coats. With kilz on another room, an unforgiving loud purple, i just used the casual colors one coat and no primer and only had to use Kilz paint one coat and it did an excellent job some areas of the wall required another coat. It spattered like crazy from my roller no matter how slow I tried to go. Did anyone realize you were comparing a latex based with a 100% acrylic based with an oil based? With Behr had to cover blue room used a primer and paint and had to use two coats of paint. Note: Valspar products are available at Lowes and if this is your prefered brand of paint and/or primer, you should grab our Lowe’s Coupon before making the purchase. Of course the oil based primer won! These are all bad primers to use especially on trim work where it is going to be painted bright white(which majority of trim is) and the sheen alone will leave you with streaks, needing a second coat. They put on a uneven coat or two on. Thank you! Did you know that paint can even be recycled into new paint or a completely different product? You may want to try KILZ Premium (rather than original or general purpose), since it claims to also adhere to glossy surfaces. Read on and decide for yourself which primer provided the best coverage. It is awesome. thank you, Cyndy, Also none of the primers listed nor any other ones at Home Depot or Lowes has a white finish they are pretty grey. I’ve been successful with Kilz primer and will stick with it. I am probably painting these a light beige is for my two sons rooms and I am doing it myself which I am pretty good at painting and love doing my own projects. Plus, it’s easy to handle, and it’s a good bonding primer for paint to go onto,” says Chris. 1 or 2 coats Conco® Interior Water Base Drywall PVA Primer/Sealer Conco® P001 Interior Water Base Drywall PVA Primer/ Sealer is a high hiding PVA wall sealer that provides a uniform base for latex and oil/alkyd topcoats. Applied by brush or roller, this low VOC primer and sealer dries quickly and sands easily for the topcoat to be applied in just two hours. It is ok to have some primers that are grey and some that are closer to pure white, Why? It is also recommended as a whole house primer for use on properly prepared interior or exterior wood, masonry, plaster, wallboard, cement, brick, stucco, cement composition board, aluminum and wall coverings. JavaScript is disabled. “Gary responds… I doesn’t even stick to the paper around the can. I bought a house where the previous owner hadn’t cleaned in years and was a smoker. Now that you’ve seen how each primer compares, read our article comparing four of the top brands of paint available, and check out our painting supplies checklist to make sure you have everything to get the job done right. Hey TJ, If you are going to paint over laminate you need to first lightly sand, or the paint and primer won’t stick. I’m really surprised that Behr covered the best. I hate breathing the oil fumes. Comparing performance can be difficult with simple images, and we don’t want you to simply take our word for it. It was my favorite paint for the price. I have never seen such lousy paint primer as the Valspar that I am packing up the take back to Lowes. Worst painting experience I have ever had. Less than 1 year ago I had the exterior of house painted. Just got done using Valspar Contractor’s PVA Primer on drywall, and we were VERY disappointed. “I consider it our insurance policy — I go heavy-duty on the primer so I don’t run into something later on that I’m regretting.” never again. Any ideas? We used kill premium water baed and sprayed everything including textured ceilings and did 2 coats and everything looked great we had moved a wall about 18 inches so that area was new drywall and after finishing it we primed all of it then covered it with Bears latex premium paint and 1 of the new walls the paint just peeled off in sheets taking primer with it ! One site tells me to scuff-sand the wood, use a primer like KILZ, then paint as I wish. It’s also important to know that the darker the inverted image, the brighter the sample meaning less of the previous color is showing through. For a dark wall /color change a homeowner might use latex primer. Zinsser is in the Rustoleum family, and is in my mind the best primer on the market. But if you have something nasty like tobacco stains, use the Zinsser. Oil-based is THE only way to go. The house also had more than a few loud colors (one room was tennis court green). If your taking the time to prime before you paint, I would you a good sealer/primer like Kilz…you won’t go wrong. That is two primer and two of your chosen color-especially with non-flat paints as any acidental backrolling of a second coat of paint color will show a sheen variation. I work in the construction industry and there isn’t single contractor I talked to who would use any primer except Kilz. The patterns of the mobile home were picked out by an elderly lady. Editors note: This post originally ran in June, 2008. After painting on top of this primer, you will not see the previous color. I have had more complaints using Behr paints, primers and stains than I have with any other issues combined in the last 3 years and it has only gotten worse. It’s important to note that nowhere in the product description or specifications does Home Depot state anything about one-coat coverage. If the old paint is peeling, scraping is the best bet,followed by a skim cost to level the wall again. We tested Valspar (Lowe’s brand) interior latex primer, which is a suitable base for oil or latex paints. P.S. I use a PVA primer sealer from Benjamin Moore over fresh drywall. I need to know which primer to use, that won’t take more than two coats to cover up this paint. By inverting the color scheme, you can better differentiate between each sample and see which primer provided the thickest, most uniform coverage. I’m guessing we have to do the entire room but I’d love to only have to do a wall or two. Although it does not affect performance, you’ll notice that this primer appears more off-white than competitors products. I know it’s an old thread, however for what it’s worth I just used the Lowes Valspar multi-purpose primer (~$20) and was not very happy with the results. I'd say about 10 years ago I used Conco paint on an apartment interior. I think my type of texture would not benefit from priming the ceilings first. where do you see that behr won out? I say that it is not necessary for the first time using a color (other than white) to the interior walls. Was trying to save some $$$ and got what I paid for. It will give you a super-smooth surface to paint and, like most water-based primers, it’s great at filling imperfections in porous surfaces. I don’t know if the painters used a primer first as they should have and then applied 2 coats of paint or if the wood was already moldy and they just painted over it. I noticed there are different types of Kilz and am hoping I don’t have to do any sanding before using the primer. Kilz does do a good job of hiding things on a diy homeowner’s wall in preparation of painting. The goal of the primer isn’t to completely cover the previous color. Kilz is not a Behr product… They are both products of MasterChem. Hi im a new member ive been tiling for nearly 3 years and learning all the time. Save $5 on a primer but spend $15 extra on a paint to cover it. Never again. Additionally, you should always prime any patchwork with a PVA primer. So far, I'm very pleased with the results. All Interior and Exterior Surfaces - Primer or PVA over Joint Compound - Hi all. I plan on painting them a very light purple is this a good thing to use? I would not recommend valspar for any reason. Is there any certain primer that is good over wallpaper? Doing so both before and after seems a waste of paint. Maybe not a bright white but a small bit of off white… HELP…. I with I had known this when I originally painted the walls red! I have staining from permanent and sharpie type markers that seeped down into the drywall. The other two don’t even deserve having their names mentioned here. High build primes gives you an even surface for the paint to absorb evenly. I have been using it in every room. So, I have high hopes. P. V. A. Primer Page 3 of 3 Storage The product must be stored in accordance with national regulations. With four quality levels to choose from, convenient coating solutions and problem-solving textured coatings, you'll find just what you need. I have Behr primer and sealer, would this work as well? Thick and clumpy? Hello, Will KILZ PRIMER COVER MOLD and stop it? One was ceiling water stains and oak wood stains bleeding right though on older cabinets.. With the Kilz2, I could stop with one coat and put my top coat on and be finished, but with Behr, I need to put another coat on just to try get it covered. I need to paint the walls of a mobile home which look like wallpaper, but are actually dark brown flowered pattern panels. Many of the comments may no longer be applicable after this update, but we’ve preserved them to incorporate reader insights. Also there is glue residue on some walls with wallper i removed and some glue was just stubborn and i should have used steam. Get the primer tinted. Rewarding indoor surfaces with best paints, by top paint manufactures, available today. If we buy primer it is nothing other than Sherwin Williams PrepRite (or ProMar, whatever they call it now) 200. Kilz oil-based primer features a newly styled look with the same great formula. Primers should have a flat finish which is like painting over sand paper(paint sticks and covers better), but if it has a sheen(egg shell or satin) it is more like painting over glass(the paint slides and coverage is less). Sometimes it takes two. I had purchased Kilz primer but am not sure whether that will actually work adequately. Go to Wal Mart and buy their primer. I'm using CONCO PRO STEP ONE Primer/Sealer in the garage, pantry and closets to save a bit of money and Sherwin Williams throughout the remainder of the house. I’ve never had Behr perform well; and as such, stopped buying years ago. Thoughts? I have a new home with drywall ready to paint. Thanks For the info, Peace Painting, what primer will you recomend? It’s best to know what you need for each situation. I managed to get the project started this afternoon and much to my surprise found that only coat was needed. Low smell and great coverage and it washes nicely. Primer/Sealer This high hiding P.V.A. However if you want a durable satin or semi gloss Behr is a must. It was the only paint/primer I saw that would cover wallpaper. What should I use…..Kilz or Behr primer? There is the usually response, “we feel the directions were not followed”, funny how that has never happened with any other brands or any other products for that matter. Over the last eight years we've documented hundreds of home improvement and DIY craft projects along with many tool and material reviews. Interior Drywall P.V.A. Put on one coat and move on.”. I purchased a home and the previous owners painted the deck with Behr paint. This makes it a really good choice for softwood surfaces. Totally agree with Leldon Lockart about Valspar with primer. Is this normal and also does this mean the chances of future water damage is high? PVA Primer seals porous surfaces and dries quickly, while its flat finish gives a non-reflective appearance. I call it that because whoever lived there must have lost their mind when chosing colors…Orange-Yellow-Green-Dark Brown! While I have not used the Behr primer, I am a big fan of Kilz. Run from Behr in my opinion as it’s a Bear to apply. Thanks! Kilz works great! I’ve used it for years and love it. Come join the discussion about the industry, safety, finishing, tools, machinery, projects, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Would anyone recommend any of these products for painting over a cheap wood-like desk (think IKEA or office store)? In addition to priming the wall, you’ll find that it also seals tape joints and allows for sanding once it’s dried. Oil-based products typically go on very smoothly but take longer to dry and have much stronger odor. I’ve used the Kilz oil based primer to go over spots of the wall that were spackled and I had issues with the drywall mud forming little balls in the paint such that it had to be sanded once dried. You can’t go wrong with it. Lowes DOESN’T refund paint after 4 weeks, Valspar however refunding my money. It’s also fast drying, creating a permanent seal in about an hour. I’m very surprised by the Behr results. Is that the same thing? Bucket, screen, pole and just dump 80% in the bucket and use the can for my brush.in my opinion latex primer just suck unless it’s new sheetrock.red spots outside under the eves?? I HEARD THAT IF YOU USE KILZ PRIMER YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WASH YOUR WALL iS THAT TRUE????? I am in the midst of remodeling my kitchen. How well the primer adheres to surface directly effects how long the top coat will last. Unfortunately you can’t really compare that visually. Do you know how long the primer takes to dry before applying the paint to it? Maybe next time…, Using Valspar to cover a neon blue wall right now. I was just at walmart and they do carry it here in Nevada, but I found it cheaper at Home Depot. I have had very poor luck with Behr paints. IF it is mold, would KILZ PRIMER cover it (plus 2 more coats of paint) and essentially STOP the mold coming thru or should the wood just be removed (and be a bigger project)? 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