So remember; Dots are your friends. Are these ideal? You'll get there :). Auto attack and maybe a basic skill wouldn't cost MP.) New comments cannot be posted and votes … I jsut ran Wanderers Palace (Hard) with a really nice group who gave me lots of tips but apparently I deal less DPS than even the healer LOL Needless to say, this could turn into a huuuuge problem on stronger dps checks. Pages in category "Summoner Weapon/iLevel 50-59" The following 10 pages are in this category, out of 10 total. Also make sure to use Ifrit and Garuda's base aoe damage skills (on Obey, just gotta click em), Speaking of the pets, always make sure to put up their buffs too. Shadow Flare's damage isn't huge, but again it adds up. This was several months ago. The only requirement is having a level 50 Disciple of War or Disciple of Magic leveled. In both cases, it's about control. Reply. Summoner is more about when to do things than what to do. A. I'm assuming you simply DoT one and bane again. Something in this kind of format would be soooooo helpful: Thank you so much in advance, I'm terrible at learning things via pictures, symbols, even videos. As you gradually improve, however, you have the potential to be the most powerful class in the game. So why isn't everyone a Summoner? Is there a reason behind this? Summoner Rotation Guide: Understanding The Basics (50 Guide) Guide in ' Disciples of Magic ' published by Ivy, Jan 7, 2016. This is a guide about the basics of a summoner and understanding their rotation. Sweeology (Topic Creator) 7 years ago #3. Lv. If you're running Garuda-Egi, Shockwave's knockback effect WILL disrupt the tank's attempts to keep control of the fight - they can't exactly hit things with a sword or axe if that thing is suddenly halfway across the room. Need help figuring out the best rotation to get back in the swing of things. I notice you did not mention Fester, which is your hardest hitting DPS ability, so make sure to use that on single target. The rotation he lists in the second part of that guide is pretty much what you want at 50, minus the new skills. Apply Bio and Miasma to one enemy and use Bane to spread it. Summoner Guide 5.4 FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner AoE. A lot of people will Swiftcast Shadow Flare, but I find it wasteful since you've already set up your main source of damage and it's only 0.5s extra cast time anyway. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Spam ruin in between. Pets should be kept on Obey so you can control their movements. What you should be doing once you've done your setup. Groups, use Bane before Fester. Press J to jump to the feed. And if Garuda-Egi decides to use Contagion before you've even set up your DoTs then it's completely wasted. Read guides and practice to really get it down, but the above gives enough info to get a good stretch of the way there. First question of the day since you mained on SCH for so long; did you do any of your SMN quests? So, unless your gears are totally left behind or you didnt use other skills especially fester, you should be able to do okay dps (since spell speed buff affects dots too now). Reply . FFXIV Jobs; FFXIV Shadowbringers Summoner; Guide; AoE; Pages in this Guide. Reply With Quote. Enkindle is your Egi’s signature ability and is best used on cooldown especially for multiple targets. Persistence is important as well as patience and the ability to judge yourself to find out where you can improve. First things first, the biggest difference between SMN and other DPS classes (include BLM) is that the damage dealt by a SMN is lots of poking the enemy to death adding up to massive damage. I think it's helpful to start out with a description of what Summoner is and isn't- especially in regards to the history of the job since ARR, considering how often it gets significant portions of its skills reworked. PIE increases our Maximum MP at a rate of 7.25 MP per point at level 50. Press J to jump to the feed. Still, there is a only a few "guides" for lvl 70 Summoners, and most of the ones find make me go "WTF? Pace yourself well. Wow, as someone who is currently leveling smn this is going to come in handy. SMN has some of the biggest damage potential in the game. I always feel like I'm doing something wrong when I'm doing that and I think it's because I'm not used to the idea of my main source of damage coming from DoTs instead of direct damage dealing spells (like Ruin or any other spell like it). 50-60 Rotation Starting at Lv. Arcanist Weapons, Summoner Weapons and Scholar Weapons, are various types of books - which contain words and phrases used for incantations. I have written research here in my room.. it’s time to update before 3.0!! DO NOT open with it, as you may find yourself pulling aggro from the tank before they can secure it. Let me share my Lv50 rotation - it's changed a lot on the way to Lv60, but it's still important for ARR dungeons. Yet what is a god to one man is a demon to another, for the city-states of Eorzea see these beings as a grave threat to their collective survival. Overall, playing Summoner can be very challenging, because there is so much to keep track of. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. Below item level 50, these weapons can generally be used by either a Arcanist, Summoner or Scholar, although there are a few exceptions. I know this thread is old but thank you so much for this. At level 50, I usually go: NEVER Sic. Aah I use quest gear, I am currently up to iceheart dungeon! I'm like "Nope". SMN isn't really a rotation, it's a priority system. South Thalanan is a level 25-50 area, Info above incorrect, you will not get level 20 leves from Little Ala Mhigo. I tried having Outburst alot when I first unlocked it. The beast tribes of Eorzea worship and summon forth beings known as primals, among which are Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan. Hey all, my summoner hit level 80 because I levelled up my scholar and I figured I may as well use it, but I can’t get the rotation down. Commenting to reference, thanks for the good write up. Summoner is currently a highly mobile caster that follows a repeating cycle of about 2 minutes of different types of casting. In terms of your own buffs (Raging and Quelling), make sure to use them to effectively increase your DOT damage as well as your Fester. :O Miasma => Bio II => Bio => Contagion => Bane => Shadow Flare => Aerial Slash => Ruin spam => Renew DoTs as needed. Helps to even out your MP till your next Aetherflow is up and running. Here's the content you guys know me for. Ruin II costs double MP for little gain. Teach you how to mix up this flow when needed and analyze what your options are at each position in your rotation. A community for fans of Square Enix's popular MMORPG "Final Fantasy XIV Online", also known as FFXIV or FF14. I really like that rotation for cycling perfectly into an endless stream, which makes a lot of fun. How do you do the level 50 Summoner quest? User Info: Sweeology. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Use your pet command skills. should be your "filler" move. How to unlock the ACN Class?. I notice you did not mention Fester, which is your hardest hitting DPS ability, so make sure to use that on single target. This is mostly thanks to Bane. I tend to prefer Ifrit too, as he gets auto-attacks (whereas Garuda doesn't) and Radiant Shield is very useful for a little extra damage. My Level 70 SMN rotation Public. Basically this means you get slightly less than 1.5 more MP from Aetherflow per point of PIE. However it changes based on the fact you're in a group fight. Since it's a placeable group DOT make ample use of it in groups, even bosses if Slow works on them. My cross class skills are: Internal Release Foresight Feather Foot Blood Bath and Fracture. In these boxes, I’ll put info that you’ll likely be referring to (or discovering) while leveling up your Arcanist. I like to start groups as such; Shadow Flare (Swiftcasted preferably) -> Dots -> Bane -> Fester main target (Pretty much same as single target from here on), With groups, don't ignore the skill Enkindle either. Control your pet (I've seen plenty of people leaving their pet attacking a boss while it's invulnerable...) and keep your DoTs up at all times. After this, bosses can vary wildly so it becomes very situational. I wanted to ask if anyone can point me in the direction of finding a written guide for the summoner. Think the new Summoner Job skills could have the Summoner take the form of a Primal, based on the current Egi they have summoned (kinda like a fusion, which combines the Summoner's Aether, and the Egi's essence to create the complete form of the primal, and the summoner can play as a primal as long as they have MP. You rmain goal is for these skills to be capped at 2 charges as little as possible. User Info: DoctorRPG. Use your Aetherflow. Yes, all 3 jobs level together. Practice and have patience. The FFXIV Samurai is a fantastic DPS Job to switch to. They net you some more of the base spells needed for the class. In terms of how SMN plays, you want to make sure to always keep all of your dots up since the class centers itself around the damage from them quite a bit. Group Fights; As before, All three dots go up first. The rotation he lists in the second part of that guide is pretty much what you want at 50, minus the new skills. 25 potency per target can add up to a lot, and the 5% Slow may be unnoticeable, but again adds up. Try to make sure they stay up all the time. But if I read it once, I'll remember it for life <3. Firstly, ALWAYS set your pet to Obey. Thanks. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. To be honest sometimes I screwed up with the rotations (bio/bio II/miasma not in the optimal order etc - well according to those guides) and still can get decent dps, especially better after I got my Zeta weapon. Pages in category "Summoner Quest" The following 26 pages are in this category, out of 26 total. DoctorRPG 7 years ago #1. Location: Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks, Arcanists’ Guild (x:6, y:10.6) NPCs: Murie, Thubyrgeim Related Quests: (all in the same place) > So you want to be a Arcanist > Way of the Arcanist > My First Grimoire (all in the same place) — Others: You may also begin the game as Arcanist Arcanist are the only “Hybrid class”. Starting with Cross class skills, Raging Strikes, Quelling Strikes, Swiftcast are three major players. So keep them in mind. FFXIV samurai's rotation is pretty simple at level 50 since you don't have access to your Kenki gauge yet. Shadow Flare's main aspect is the slow. FFXIV Guild says: May 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm . This is a legitimate observation. … You gain rested EXP in these areas! Feels like it deals 0 dmg...), See this thread for a great writeup on Summoner in the new expansion: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/3bqlgx/the_30_summoner_an_extensive_guide_by_hai_hai/. Snickers085 7 years ago #2. The initial setup phase gets your DoT effects up quickly. As for your pet, there are some important things to know. So you might as well level up a healer. jumpy 7 years ago #2. if i remember correctly -- it was a long time ago -- i made sure to do two main things: a) burn down the guy's mega-summon or w/e when he spawns it and b) keep my pet (in this case titan) topped off. If you burn them all early on, you will find yourself powerless later. In this episode, I do the level 50 Summoner quest earning the ability Enkindle. Always, ALWAYS keep your pet on 'Obey' so you can control what they're doing as well. I very much notice every comment and … You can then throw in Fester and later Painflare - but pace yourself. I just want to make sure I'm helping my team by doing damage properly so could any other summoners out there TYPE out the order in which I should be rotating my skills? Will leveling an arcanist level both of them up simultaneously? Spreading that 800+ damage to multiple enemies is what really gets your dps up, and especially now in Heavensward, with Bane affecting ALL nearby enemies (albeit at half power after the fourth), your damage quickly snowballs. How about when you have no stacks of Aetherflow to use? I am currently still lvl 50 and could really really need some help on how my rotation should be >-<. I'm assuming you're supposed to take time to manually reapply all 3 DoTs to each target. 1 Intro; 2 Starting Off; 3 Levelling Up; 4 Openers; 5 Rotation; 6 Pets; 7 Demi-Summons; 8 AoE; 9 Role Actions; 10 How To Improve; AoE. In general priorities go as such at level 50: Put up DoTs unless enemies will die shortly. You definitely want to be on Obey at all times. Be very careful to ensure that Garuda's Contagion has taken effect before you use Bane, otherwise you won't get the 15s extension on the other targets. Just saying :P). I just recently returned to the game from a 1 1/2 year hiatus and used to main Scholar but I remembered how much I hated questing on it and I also didn't feel confident healing after such a long break so I switched to Summoner. If I may take a little more of your time with a couple more questions: I've been told Garuda is too weak compared to Ifrit and never to use it, I actually got yelled at by a tank over this in an earlier dungeon...should I be having Garuda? It's best to use Aetherflow on Fester for single target, and Painflare for AoE. report. And the first ever relic weapon :<, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 13 comments. Use your main damage dealer when all else is covered. Use your pet command skills. ", like the one you find at the top of internet searches, which suggests to cast contagion AFTER applying dots (They apparently haven't thoroughly read the 4.0 patchnotes) and SWIFTCAST Ruin ll as much as possible! Everything I’ve searched for is telling me to weave my egi assaults, but they must have been changed them to gcd’s before I got my hands on summoner. Mind you that I'm not a Summoner Main, but from what I can observe: - From 60 to 68, yes, you will have quite a bit of downtime for Aetherflow. He told me that I need to use "sicfrit" at all times or quit being sunmoner :/. Aetherflow on single targets should be spent on Fester. As for the rotation itself for a 50 smn, this is how I usually worked with it; Single Enemy; Bio 2 -> Miasma -> Bio (Use Contagion from Garuda to make them last longer if you are using her) -> Fester -> Ruin -> Ruin -> Fester etc. When all dot's are up, and fester is on cooldown/you don't have aetherflow, spam Ruin as a filler. It might surprise you to learn that even if I took off my Crystal and ran as a plain old Arcanist, I was keeping up with - and often exceeding - the damage output of everyone in an entire 24-man alliance. User Info: jumpy. Speaking of Ruin 2, I noticed you didn't mention it, and said to use Ruin 1? Requirements: Level 50 DoW or DoM; Aetheryte -> Aethernet: New players wanting to play AST asap will have to take a bit of a detour. Level 38 Defense 59 Magic Defense 118 Intelligence +14 Vitality +15 Direct Hit Rate +22 Determination +10 Cannot equip gear to head. Hi there, I was actually on voice call with the tank you were running with at the time ;) I'm her boyfriend xD. You have three stacks of Aetherflow to play with every minute. It felt super underwhelming in damage, did I miss something with it? 50 you gain access to Enkindle. You want to re-up your aetherflow on cooldown. Pace yourself when using abilities so you don't burn out your power, and be helpful to the party by Swift-Resurrecting downed members - Resurrection is expensive and healers need all the MP they can get. 52 … Summoner Body: iLevel 50-59 ... Req. Loyalist's Bliaud 40: Disciples of Magic Req. When all dot's are up, and fester is on cooldown/you don't have aetherflow, spam Ruin as a filler. While rotation plays a big part, (and other ppl gave tips and guides on it) it could be that your equipments are too outdated (since you said you went into 1 1/2 year hiatus) while other outgeared the dungeon thus the big differences in dps. This video thoroughly explains how to play Samurai in my own personal experience and should NOT be stated as optimal. I did this very quickly back in the first week/s of the game. Just remember to keep DoT effects up at all times. Start the game as Conjurer (into White Mage), or Arcanist (into Scholar). On reaching Lv. If the Enemy can be slowed also make sure to put up a Shadow Flare, its helpful. (0) et här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring e på klubben, dricker skumpa och alla brudar tar på min rumpa det här är en sång om ingenting så alla bratz kan hoppa omkring o i baren shotar vi jäger för att visa vem som äger. This will become even more important when you get Dreadwyrm Trance at the higher levels. I find this gets the best use out of Raging Strikes, because you get two Festers and you should have just enough time to reset the DoTs before it runs out. Starting with "A Realm Reborn" and the expansions include "Heavensward", "Stormblood", and "Shadowbringers"! SMN isn't really a rotation, it's a priority system. Contagion then leaves your damage-boosted DoT effects to last much longer. Last but not least of these reminders, always logout at a sanctuary. SMN has an opening rotation, and there are a lot of guides for that (and I'm not sure how it changed for 51+), but remember that it's a dot class. I'm gonna try my lvl 50 smn. It will likely take some getting used to but so long as you remember the key points, you will be able to effectively down anything in your path (Also at 60 we're unstoppable AOE machines with Deathflare. 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