The Contestants. The two Barnes loads have almost an identical amount of wind drift, but the 7mm Rem Mag Nosler AccuBond load has a slight edge over the .300 Win Mag AccuBond load. I have also tested a variety of 30 cals, 300 win mag, 300 rum, 30-378, 30 Lapua, and so on. Joined: 08/17/2002 . The velocities produced were understandably lower than those of the 7mm Remington Magnum—as the powders available in 1912 certainly weren’t the same as those in 1962—but the cartridges are nearly identical, with the H&H design having a bit more taper. It betters the velocities of the .300 H&H Magnum; though it falls short of the performance of the .300 Weatherby Magnum, the Winchester variety can be housed in the standard long-action receiver, which is lighter and less expensive to produce. You want to see an animal drop right now? That being said, my rifle likes the 150 BT a lot better and it's been great for whitetail but I believe there are better options when hunting elk. Either will neatly terminate deer, sheep, elk and larger game so long at the shooter delivers the right bullet to the right spot. Like over 400 yards. Ballistics comparison video between the 7mm Remington Magnum vs the 300 Winchester Magnum. Not a choice in the question but think a .308 is enough gun. More Guns. With the velocities of both guns, inferior projectiles can break up at veryclose ranges. Dang, you're right. Posts: 2,213. No surprise there, as both the 7mm and .308″ bore diameters have long been heralded as the two most versatile available, giving hunters all sorts of flexibility regarding the game animals they will handle. Now for Elk I would much rather have more power to anchor an Elk before it gets a chance to get into the thick fallen timber were we hunted in NW Colorado. used the 7mm alot from the 80s and for me it was a pretty hard kicker not much less than a .300 Win Mag. Which makes the better choice for the hunter? With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. I have never been interested in short mag cartridges. Am thinking about keeping my .270, but am considering adding the 7mm WSM, mostly for longer shots in western mtns for Elk. vs. .300 Win. Again, there are no flies on a 7mm. If you like the idea of using one of these calibers for the bigger game animals, like Alaska/Yukon moose or brown/grizzly bear, I feel the .300 Win. 300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) Developed in the early 2000’s this nearly 20-year old cartridge is still fairly “new” to most hunters. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Both will kill an elk. More Guns. Mag. The 7mm RUM is really only a good option if you are shooting ultra long range. But, I'll take my 30-06 with a 200gr Partition or Accubond. Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? I am a .30 caliber guy, but the 7's are good also, with a bit less recoil.. We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. I would tell you a 7mm Rem Mag or STW was perfect for any size deer even at distance. Location: Qu\'Appelle SASKATCHEWAN WATERFOWL HEAVEN. I was most always hunting Deer when the Elk showed up. Reply Subscribe . Kimber Montana...then 300 WSM. I know not the answer you were looking for, but there it is. Mag, 300 Win. It’s been all over with me on hunting trips, including Africa, Canada and here at home. 300 Win. The 300 Win looks real good with bullets such as the 190 and 210 ABLRs BUT the 7mm Rem looks darned good with the 150's and 168 ABLRs as well. Offline. I liked the 300, but the 7mm WSM is a great one. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the … I’ll share more of these in my next blog, including more recent experiences with 7mm Rem. I like the 300 win mag but bullets are expensive as 30-06 bullets are relatively cheap and can be found anywhere, but the 7mm rem mag kind of is the bridge between them. # # # Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. If I was limited to one gun for deer and elk in the west the WSM you are suggesting would be about perfect. Location: Nova Scotia . I used 180 gr. I shot a couple 7 mags yesterday. Nonetheless, the magnums are extremely popular, and the two cartridges herein are possibly the most popular of all. No rocking, no slamming to the ground. I've taken much game with the 308, and my Weatherby 300 Alaskan too, but that 7MM-08 is a sweet package as well, plus light on recoil. The .300 Winchester Mangum has more ammunition available—as it leads a dual life, in both the hunting world and long-range target world—but every major ammunition manufacturer offers a selection of 7mm Remington Magnum ammo. Ultra Mag. I had an easy time parting with the 300 WSM cause of the 7mm. Guys depending on the LOT H 4831 sc should get you there or real close in a 24" bll. We've got you covered.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Virtually every one of our bullet diameters have received the magnum treatment at one point in time or another, be it from the Weatherby family of cartridges, or the dynamic duo of Winchester and Remington, or even the boutique shops like Lazzeroni. Norma followed suit, releasing their .308 Norma Magnum in 1960, giving the same ballistics as the longer .300 H&H Magnum, in a long-action cartridge. I've only shot one elk with my .300 WSM. With comparable bullet weights, the 7mm Mag. It's hard to beat the killing power of a 7 mag from a cartridge with so little recoil. 7mm Rem. I think the question comes down to the gun on that one. can use bullets of 120 grains, but things usually top out at 175 or 185 grains. I have a 300wsm in a finnlight and it is a gem. Washington State . I can see pros and cons for each cartridge. 300 WSM.... 'cause there's been one in the safe since 2004; been handloading it since '04 and have some "pet loads" and because I don't own a 7mm mag., (but I've always admired that round). If you are determined to use the 7mm bullets look at the 280 rem, 280 improved, and 284 win. The old long through is just fine for me. I like short actions, so a WSM. Neck: 8.6mm 5. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. October 2, 2019. 7mm Remington Magnum (7.2x64mm) 1. The photo below does a great job of showing the differences in external … If Remmy 700, then 7 mag. RE: 300 WSM Vs 7mm Rem Mag Which is better for big game Both great for big game. I’ve used it with lead-free 150-grain bullets for African plains game, 180-grain bullets for a good number of species and 220-grain round nose bullets for bear and deer. For all practical purposes though, there isn’t a significant difference in the ballistics of the .300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag at typical hunting ranges. It followed the Winchester recipe, with a 2.50″ case, but wasn't exactly an original design. Hunting. Regardless of where your allegiances … At 500 yards, the 7mm Rem Mag overtakes the 300 Win in stopping power. per sec. ChrisGarrett . It's not because of the cartridge. partitions on that hunt and dropped him in his tracks at 380 yards. I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Survival. The post-World War II era saw a return to the hunting fields, and a wave of cartridge development followed, with Winchester releasing the .264, .338 and .458 Winchester Magnums in the 1950s, all based on the belted Holland & Holland case shortened and blown out. My .300 WSM is 5" shorter than my 7mm Rem Mag was (22" barrel vs. 26" barrel plus the action is about an inch shorter). More than adequate for moose and Elk, low recoil, high velocity. I have shot many deer with it, 4 elk and every one was dropped in it's tracks. Inside of 200 yards no advantage. Probably more luck than my shooting ability. ...I just don't like the WSMs. The 7mm Remington Magnum drives the wide variety of 7mm bullets, from 120 to 175 grains, at respectable velocities. It measures 2.62 inches – The 7mm Rem Mag is 2.5 inches. Mag. This question must mean you didn't get a tag this year. The logical bottom end for the .300 Winchester ranges between 130 and 150 grains, depending on bullet construction; the 7mm Rem. 7mm Mashburn Super Magnum and 7mm-.300 Weatherby (both based on the belted-magnum case and required 3.600-inch length actions) failed to gain widespread acceptance. For those of you that have hunted with these cartridges, did you notice a difference in their performance on game at all? Mag. I've taken much game with the 308, and my Weatherby 300 Alaskan too, but that 7MM-08 is a sweet package as well, plus light on recoil. The debate rages on as to whether or not the additional speed is necessary, with both sides of the fence making valid points. I decided I'm going to split the difference... 7mm WSM. In these 3 calibres I'd use 140 grain bullets in the 7MM-08, 165's in the 308, and 180's in the 300 Win Mag, and ( especially..) all with partition bullets from the Nosler brand. has an obvious weight advantage, topping out at 240 grains. One was a cow elk at 357 yards, free handed nothing near by to steady. The 7mm Mag has a reputation for being a little unpredictable in load development, I best get rid if my 7 Rem mags too. It's a toss up. Re: 7mm STW vs 300 WBY Mag for long range elk/moose It's really a horse apiece. One of the biggest problems is with the 7mm/.284 diameter bullets, you don’t get the wound channel of a 30 cal and the 175’s are notorious for tumbling upon impact having less penetration. I'm not a fan of WSM cartridges, but between the two, that is the one I would choose. But can't decide between the 2. Mag. Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'. As for the 7mm Rem vs 300 Win. I have killed elk with ,260 rem, 6.5 x 284, 270 win, 270 wsm, 7mm saum, 7mm rem mag, 300 wsm. Anybody willing to give odds whether this thread will last as long as the .300 Weatherby thread? Some may wonder why the popular .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag and .270 WSM did not have better showings. Hard choice to make for me as I like both cartridges, so it would come down to the rifle at hand. I have never looked back. Especially a Supermoon, which can change everything.... Jim, sounds like the same guy I used to work with in Idaho. I have a Ruger 7mm RM made in 1976 that has accounted for several elk and a boatload of deer since it took its first animals in 1977, the darn thing is a death ray out past 500 yards and has produced several groups you could cover with a dime. The belted cartridge is not going to be quite as accurate as a rimmed cartridge by design. As the 7mm Rem Mag is of smaller caliber than the 300 Win Mag, it is a very good choice for lighter, smaller animals. ", The 7mm Mag has a reputation for being a little unpredictable in load development. 7MM Rem Mag. I have shot many deer with it, 4 elk and every one was dropped in it's tracks. 300 WSM Vs 7mm Rem Mag Which is better for big game. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. If you feel that the largest animals are better served with a larger bore altogether, then it becomes nearly a dead heat between the two cartridges. Just put your shot were it needs to go. It stayed a wildcat for over two decades until Remington—long famous for adopting wildcat cartridges like the .257 Roberts, .22-250 Remington, .25-06 Remington and .35 Whelen—made an honest cartridge out of the 7mm/308; in 1980, the 7mm-08 Remington saw the light of day. Mag. So as a lot of others have already said; Either would be sufficient. In this cartridge comparison of the 7mm Rem Mag vs .300 Win Mag, we are dealing with two cartridges that each carry loyal users and often find themselves the subject of heated debate on numerous firearm forums and within hunting lodges. Since shooting game beyond this distance is rarely practical, the slightly flatter trajectories of these … Definitely sounds like a good candidate for the .300 WSM. Yes, my rifles and I have seen some wild elk hunts. I have both. Base: 12.0 mm From the first look, there are no significant differences between 7mm Remington Magnum and .30-06 Springfield when it comes to profile. I bought a Kimber Montana in .300 WSM several years ago and after several successful elk hunts, it is still in my safe. These calibers, along with similar calibers not evaluated (.264 Win Mag, .270 Wby Mag, 7mm WSM and 7mm Wby Mag) are optimally designed to take medium game at ranges beyond 300 yards. Because I don't like short cartridges. Haven't analyzed it any closer than that, but do know the percentage of recovered Partitions is low, well under 20% if I recall correctly. These calibers, along with similar calibers not evaluated (.264 Win Mag, .270 Wby Mag, 7mm WSM and 7mm Wby Mag) are optimally designed to take medium game at ranges beyond 300 yards. Mag. For me it would be the 7mm RM. Joined Mar 2005; Posts 13693; EE Offline; FL, USA. If building a tactical rifle that uses AICS magazines, both calibers can use the same chassis and mags. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away”, "I used to have Bass rolling like thunder.........can't do dat no mo'. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure … However, the distance from the case head to the datum line on the shoulder is longer for the 7WSM, preventing accidental chambering or firing of the .284" 7mm bullet in .270 WSM's .277" bore. The .300 WSM will kill elk instantly, but bullets from the 7mm Remington Magnum will bounce off. can use bullets of 120 grains, but things usually top out at 175 or 185 grains. is a hard hitting and accurate cartridge, offering a 150 fps velocity increase over the .30-06 Springfield. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. I have a 300 and 7mm WSM I use occasionally and although they work well, … Tha… We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test. Login or register to post comments; Thu, 2002-11-21 20:21 #6. Win. i just worked up a load for a 24in stainless take off barrel i installed on an action i had laying around, Which would you choose 300 wsm or 7mm rem mag for elk, Re: Which would you choose 300 wsm or 7mm rem mag for elk, _________________________________________________________________________, "Supernatural divinities are the primitive's answer to why the sun goes down at night...". The 7mm … However, if you apply the same thinking to the .270, .308, or .30-06, it would limit their range to 300 yards were they reach the 1500 ft … will supersede the velocities of the .30-06 Springfield; though the ’06 can use heavier bullets, the 7mm of equal weight will offer a better Sectional Density. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the .308 Winchester. is i worth my time to get a 7mm wsm, i am looking at getting a browning X-bolt for hunting elk in either 7mm rem mag or 7mm wsm, the rem mag has 26 inch barrel and the wsm has 23 inch barrel would that make any difference, and i noticed that there is not as many factory loads for the wsm, but i have found a few that i know will work, and i plan on learning how to reload. With a variety of bullets from most of the prominent mfg's in weights including, 140, 150, 160, 168, 180 and now 195. Mag. The way I heard it, bullets from a 7mm RM are going so fast they don't have time to expand so they zip right through the animal. I went back to the .308 until I went to Africa again in late 90s and then 2004. in 99 I took a .300 Weatherby and a .375 Weatherby. It’s all nitpicking to us. by Chuck Catchpole (Cordes Lakes, AZ) I have Smith & Wesson 7mm Rem Mag that I would not trade for the most expensive gun on the market. The elk won't know the difference; use whichever you have, if you have one. I Shot a few Northern Canada whitetails over 325 pounds. M-700 in 7RM--a Sendero v.1 and it's a fine cartridge no doubt. Remington’s 7mm Mag. by Philip Massaro - Join Date: Feb 2008. The case length of the .300 Win Mag is a little longer. Hunting. That being said, unless you are a target shooter, you may not even notice the difference between the two. jwall I don't know how we have endured the nightmare. Price & Availability. I would much rather skip right past any 300 Mag and have my .338 Win Mag in my hands. Perhaps my experiences can aid you -- or warn you -- in the selection of your next elk cartridge. They’re both calibers able to handle the longer range shooting of hunting the big ungulates, but also the big body structure of bruins. One thing the 300 Win mag has going for it is it will cycle a bit more smoothly on average. Thread Tools 05-13-2008, 09:49 AM #1 ox1443. Which powder are you using to get 3113 fps with a rem mag. by Chuck Catchpole (Cordes Lakes, AZ) I have Smith & Wesson 7mm Rem Mag that I would not trade for the most expensive gun on the market. ive havent recovered a 160 accubond from 11 big game animals, 7 mulies 4 elk, from 160 yards to 834 yards. Also consider 300 Win Mag will have substantially more recoil and cost slightly more to reload. Mag. By Chuck Hawks. By Ron Spomer. Within three years, we’d see the two most popular magnums appear on the shelves. and 325 WSM. The logical bottom end for the .300 Winchester ranges between 130 and 150 grains, depending on bullet construction; the 7mm Rem. I'm not a fan of WSM cartridges, but between the two, that is the one I would choose. vs. 7mm Rem. Let’s look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. gives an advantage in bullet weight. ChesterGolf. In the past ive loaded 150 gr gameking spbt's in front of 63 grains of IMR4350 in my 7mags but this gun will be set up to shoot a little farther and I wonder how the gamekings will hold up on long shots. Rifle wise I'm looking at Browning X bolt hells canyon, Howa Stainless, maybe a Sako but they're pricey, or maybe even a Sauer. Bullet: 7.2mm 4. In 2004 I took my 99 .270 WSM and a light .375 H&H. 7828ssc 26in factory barrel, same bag of 50 brass has 8 loadings each as of right now, after this weekend i will have to reload all 50 again for the 9th time,,. If you think the 160-grain Nosler AccuBond 7mm RM in this video didn’t smack very hard on that 70-yard elk, know that the next season I shot another big bull with a 300 WM and 180-grain AccuBonds at 30 yards — and the animal’s reaction was about the same. Mag. I’ve found that the versatility of bullet choice gives the .30s an advantage—if you appreciate the “one-gun” approach. You guys are forgettin' about them plastic tips melting off...that can't be good. Some with the big 7's.. Poor old things. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? 300 wsm 180 Accubond 7mm rem mag 160 Accubond to 500 yards. I looked at Hodgdon's website and their velocity isn't even close. In terms of external and terminal ballistics, I wouldn't expect a difference. I Shot a few Northern Canada whitetails over 325 pounds. Top. Both rounds will serve well. They are pretty much the same after the shot. Additionally, the .300 Win Mag has a shoulder moved further forward than the 7mm Rem Mag. Yeah, I heard to--about 40 years ago about the .270 Winchester. has an obvious weight advantage, topping out at 240 grains. 15.64 fps 30.4 foot-pounds Astute readers will notice a few things from these numbers: Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations . I’ll be hunting Deer, Elk, Hog, and Moose as well as shooting targets up to 600 yards. Tomahawks Are Back: These American Relics Have Seen a Resurgence in Military and Survival Situations . Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufact Re: 7mm STW vs 300 WBY Mag for long range elk/moose Although I love the STW, forget it unless you really like expensive components to reload. Latest. Both make a great choice for elk, deer, African plains game and smaller bears, and both have the capability to be made in a mountain rifle for sheep and goats. Survival. I’m looking into buying my next rifle and I drew the line at hard hitting hunting magnums from the .300 Win Mag, because I believe that is a bit too much for me, so I decided on the 7mm Rem Mag. Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 20, 2009. A 160-grain 7mm Core-Lokt Ultra in a current load brings 1,580 foot-pounds to 400 yards – plenty to kill elk, but well shy of the 1,750 delivered by the.300’s 180. While I cannot appreciate the 7mm Rem Mag, I do have several 7 Wby's that I hold in very high esteem. If that is too heavey then I get out my Rem 700 Titanium in 7 Rem Mag. To engage this 7mm RM vs. 300 WM argument you have to be willing to pick at nits because, bottom line, both cartridges (and many other magnums like them) are winners. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but under-rated “standard” velocity cartridges. By Ron Spomer. Better all around for elk. Mag. 1,002 Posts . OP. The 7mm Rem Mag overall length is slightly smaller than the .300 Win Mag – 3.34 inches against 3.29 inches. Elk Cartridge Showdown: .308 Win vs. .300 Win. Some calibers, such as 7mm Remington Magnum, offer more choices than others (7mm WSM, for example). I want to go hunting for boar up to elk and do not know what is the best round for the job, I narrowed it down to these three calibers for performance and popularity. .300 Wby,read it here on the 'fire that it's the best ever cartridge for elk. The 7mm Rem Mag vs. the 300 Win Mag #6134752 02/04/12: Joined: Dec 2008. I only have 5 of them. Some may wonder why the popular .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag and .270 WSM did not have better showings. Big Game Hunting Moose, elk, mulies, caribou, bear, goats, and sheep are all covered here. I could step up to a 300 magnum without question but have yet to see the need to, good ol 30-06 is already plenty enough gun by any standards. … Other than that, the critter on the receiving end would never know the difference. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. Neck: 8.0mm 5. 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Winchester recognized the demand for a high velocity, flat shooting, sub-.30-caliber cartridge and announced the .264 Winchester Magnum in 1958, chambered in the Winchester Model 70 Westerner. 3.5 lbs. Latest. With my 7mm Rem Mag strapped to my backpack I ended up getting it stuck on low hanging branches way more than you would think. 7mm Remington Magnum vs 300 Winchester Short Magnum. Now for Elk I would much rather have more power to anchor an Elk before it gets a chance to get into … Posts: 247 300 WSM Vs 7mm Rem Mag Which is better for big … I would pick a 7mm mag above the 7mm rum. Both cartridges were released to the public hardly a year apart and further adds to the rivalry that has been raging. Washington State. Maybe I'm more old school than I thought but definately the 7MM Rem Mag. burnettjv, I’ve witnessed the use of both 7mm Rem Mag and 30-06 on many Bull Moose and the 30-06 definably has the edge on the 7mm Rem Mag! The popularity of magnum cartridges is undeniable; Americans have had a long love affair with speed, and I doubt that will end anytime soon. But dozens with other .300's.. Those are always the deciding factors: right bullet, right place. The 7mm is a belted cartridge and the 300wsm is a rimmed cartridge. Driving a 180-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2960 fps, Winchester’s .300 Mag. 7mm rem mag vs 300 wsm Hey fellas, Currebtly looking into calibres for a long range rig I wana invest in for my next rifle. Also consider 300 Win Mag will have substantially more recoil and cost slightly more to reload. Co. What is meant by an "all-around" rifle cartridge and what are the criteria for choosing one? vs. 338. Mag. Shot placement seems more important than .308 vs .284 diameter given a similar bullet weight. Mag. Senior Member. I hunt elk with a .300 Win Mag, but 7mm Rem Mag is an excellent choice. At 500 the 7mm drops .7" less, the 300 has 142 ft lbs more energy. I haven't given my preference because--I haven't hunted Elk YET. Friday, August 31, 2018. 300 win mag. Wait till you get that 7mm WSM sorted out Gene. But, as Montana Man said, find a rifle that you like chambered in either one and buy it. Based on the .404 Jeffery case the 300 Winchester Short Magnum delivers nearly identical ballistics as the famed 300 Winchester Magnum that has been around since 1962 but being a short round it can be used in short action rifles. I have seen my son drop several elk with one shot with his 7mm Rem Mag with 160 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw's and deer with 160 gr Speer Mag Tip handloads. Winchester, seeing the wisdom of the .308 Norma Magnum and an opportunity to produce a .30 caliber magnum with the Winchester moniker, extended the case length from 2.50″ to 2.62″, shortening the neck length to 0.264″ to give plenty of case capacity while still fitting in a long-action receiver. The elk won't know the difference. The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. vs. 7mm Rem. I would just take whichever gun shouldered better and had less perceived recoil. There is a definite difference between the .300 Win Mag and .300 WSM with all of the .300 Win Mag rounds generating over 26ft.lbs of energy with several in the 29-32ft.lb range. I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Campfire Ranger. Both are relatively easy to handload for those who head down that road, running on a good slow-burning powder and a large rifle magnum primer, and both exhibit excellent accuracy with both factory and handloaded ammunition. A Sako Finnbear and a Kleinguenther. Think, pronghorn, mule, and fallow deer. But, for me personally, I smile every time I reach for the .300 Winchester Magnum. than Partitions for the same game. So i ordered a new rifle in 7mm rem mag to make into my new intermediate/long range elk rig. This is not at all uncommon. The 7mm Remington Magnum was the first on the scene, released in 1962 in conjunction with the new Model 700 rifle. The best scope for 7mm Rem Mag can make your 7mm Rem Mag more competitive and powerful. Mag. Both of these calibers are excellent moose cartridges. The author analyzed the 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Remington, .280 Remington, 7mm Remington Magnum, 7mm Weatherby Magnum, and 28 Nosler for trajectory, effective range, and recoil with modern ballistic software available free online from shooterscalculator.com. The fact that it also has a milder recoil than the 300 Win Mag makes the 7mm Rem Mag a sound choice for those heading out on mountain hunting expeditions. I have been shooting 308, 30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, 270 Win and WSM for years and can shoot them all day at the range. Never shot an elk with the WSM.. No, his name wasn't Morris but apparently there at least two guys in Idaho who believe that. 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